Michael Schultz & the Power of Storytelling: A Legacy of Iconic Films

Good morning. Good morning. What's happening family? Welcome to the show. It is Michelle Brian here at WNOV 860 AM 106.5 FM. You are listening to say something real and let me check in with the players in the studio. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm sorry. No players here. Clark is married, and Jermaine lives alone. No players here. No players here. Hey, Clark, hey. Hey, what, Clark? Hey, man, I'm a podside lover. Let me start. We're safe. What's going on, Clark?

Let me see who am I with this morning? I don't know. Um, I think I'm still with Scott Cologne this morning, brother down in Mississippi. I talk about that race, but how was your weekend, Clark? Was you out on these streets? Was you outside? Or was you at the house? Oh, you know, I went shopping with the wife. Did you say shopping? Yeah.

For the funeral for just shopping was we out Christmas shopping was you looking for stuff for Michelle? No, no I need to start putting some kind of Thanksgiving list together cuz like

Yeah, man. And then, you know, my daughter-in-law, she was like, are you coming home for Thanksgiving? Just so I don't have to cook, I was like, oh, I may be. Just so I have nothing to do, but somebody say, ding, ding, ding, dinner is ready. Get your hands together. I'm just saying because I want to be clear. Taylor's macaroni and cheese is the best macaroni and cheese ever made in the entire.

history of America. Her macaroni and cheese is killer, but she cracked me up. She was like, um, cause I was asking her what she had and what's on her menu and she said, and I'm growing my cabbage right now and my carrots. So I should have my cabbage and carrots out of my garden in time for, for Thanksgiving. Cracked me up. I'm growing my cabbage right now. Who says that? Um,

All right, I took as much time as I could. Hey, Jermaine. You can't avoid me, baby. What? Uh-uh. I'm everywhere. That's so scary. You can't avoid me. I'll try. How you doing this morning, sir? So, you know. Yes, sir.

Meteorologist Mane O'Condella woke up this morning. Say the obvious. Go ahead and say the obvious. Oh, of course, of course. So for those of you. Say the obvious. It's cold as hell outside. Oh, we just gonna break it down to that? It's cold as hell outside. And for those of you that haven't paid. But just like, I wonder why people started saying.

is cold as hell. Yeah, because hell is not cold. Well, I've always kind of let me see if there's an answer for that on Google. Why do people, it is a good one because people say it isn't maybe only black people that say it's cold as hell outside. That's what it is. It's cold. It's cold as ice. Okay, so let me see what they say.

Well, I guess just they say, you know, just to figure speech that the temperature is extremely and uncomfortably low. Oh, no. Oh, no. OK. Yeah. So, you know, saying, saying hell was meant to amplify. Like people be like, he lucky as hell. Yeah. Like.

It ain't that lucky about going to hell. None at all. It is one of those things that it does not match what you say it, but we all say it. Everybody said, I think it's a cultural thing, you know, but for those of you that haven't paid your energy bill and it's cold in your house, I got a little tip for you. Go stand in the corner.

because it's 90 degrees in every corner. So if it's four yard in the house, y'all find four corners of the other house and stand there and let me know how they work out for you. Okay. It might not work out for you. Let me be clear. But it is 90 degrees. Even if you haven't, I paid your bill. The moratorium started on November 1st. Yo, he is back on. Well, no, but I know, but yo.

your weenies would have to be owned before the moment. I mean, you know, before they come in and cut it off. They come in and cut it off if it's off. Oh, it says, wait. Active status required. Yeah. Protection only applies if your service is owned and connected when the moratorium begins. If your heat or power is already disconnected before November 1st.

Utilities are not required to reconnect it until you make payment arrangement. Oh, yeah, just make a payment arrangement. Friendship with Jesus. Yeah. We're setting up a repayment plan. Yeah. Yeah. You said some info. Yeah. It had to be on already. It's four corners. Pick to which 90 degrees you're gonna get. When it's cold outside. Which 90 you're gonna get. Uh, well, let me just say this.

Uh, so did you tell me how your weekend was? No, I didn't. But I'll tell you what the report and nobody listened to back to you waste of minutes. Um, no, my weekend, it was great. Did you earn this money this weekend? Of course I made dollars. I was at OG. Yesterday was cracking. What is OG? Oh, you got to come where I had to the party. Yeah. Okay. So we every Sunday is live music. They have live band every Sunday. Okay. And just so happy we was out there this Sunday with Lloyd Stephens.

And, uh, man, it was cracking. It was nice. Oh, really? Oh, man. So you was right around the corner, didn't call no. Right around the corner. Listen here, man. I just thought that did my thing. Scared I was going to come collapse. Pat down their pockets. Give me that dung. Oh, no, it wasn't going to be no conversation. You know, you and Real G, you just walk up on the brethren and you just...

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Well, I went to the Jodeci concert this weekend in Chicago. Yes. I was supposed to go. Yes, but I swear, sir, Jodeci, Jodeci. No, no.

I hate that I missed it because my guy plays with Joseph. What does he play table Jones? He plays keys place got the locks. Yes. I saw him. I saw him and he plays and I was supposed to go. He called me. I talked to him. I was supposed to go. It was packed. I know it was and I love going to concerts in Chicago because the Chicago people come to party and they come dressed. You get a mixture. You get a mixture. Most of them was dressed up, but you get a mixture.

Erie crown and You know everybody had they love the pants on even though Jodeci didn't have Because at the first I wouldn't I wasn't getting it I had forgot about the leather pants era for Jodeci and so the end of boots and so I was like Damn they must have had a sale of leather pants All the women all the women after me and all the women had on the leather pants then finally I was like

Oh, okay. Um, but the thing, like I said, if I have a choice to go to a concert in Milwaukee or Chicago, I'm going to Chicago every time because the people in Chicago realize I just paid whatever the ticket costs and I'm getting ready to get my whole money's worth. So when the DJs say move, they was up line dancing. They was up. They did, um,

The swag surfing they did everything Party was singing to the music like in Milwaukee. Milwaukee got the silliest damn people I ever seen in my life Because they will come to a concert and sit back and act stuck up stuck up stank and bougie Like somebody owed himself and I'm like fam you came to the concert

And a lot of times it's been you know, I've been and it depends too on the artist some like the blues crowd They come to party. Yeah, they come the blues crowd in Milwaukee They come to have a good time, but these other uppity Negroes that be going to shows I'm like why you here don't want to clap entertainers be singing a buttock don't want to clap for

Don't know how to bring back an encore. Every artist is prepared to do an encore. I say, would you like just face off tight? I'm like, man, why are you here, man? Stay at the house. Why do you get dressed to come out here and act like you is bougie and you just, you're ruining the show. You just ruin the show. So if I have a chance, I always go to Chicago instead of going to concerts here. Um, again, unless I'm with the blue, the blues crowd.

The gospel crowd, they do their thing too. But, so the show was good. Jodicy changed jackets like 17 times. All of their clothes was cold. But one of the things that I'm tripping off of and Jermaine, I thought about you, I looked at their tour schedule. So I don't know if they had a bad deal negotiated back in the day. But Jodicy has

From now until January Like 11th with the exception of two weeks off around December 20th to January like 8th or something They are on the road every day They got one day break and in the most they have is a two-day break But I'm like everybody in Jody Joe to see is like 55 and older. Yeah, they say Joe Joe was kind of Joe Joe was it

Yeah, for the St. Louis show. Yeah, because Keisha wanted to go see him there. I forgot where she saw him at, because she wanted to go see him. And she came back, and she was like, like they had told him literally to sit down on the stage. Yeah, somebody yelled out, because my God called. You know, I spoke to my God over there. He said, somebody yelled out in the audience. Y'all need to take Joe to home. Yeah, like, you know, out here trying to hang in there. And I'm like, man, like I think the youngest one.

Other brothers, it's 55 years old. Yeah, it wasn't uh, because it's because it's Devon say Dalvin. Yeah, Casey and Jojo. Yeah. And uh, I'm like, were you two? Oh, I mean, that's your two. Oh, you it's something wrong. So, um, so Kisha said he looked better at this show than the last time she saw. But yeah, so that was good. Did the concert. Everything else is trying to get my life caught back up after, um,

the election. And over the course of this week, I will be talking a lot about, you know, Keith, when he did his show, I forgot how he says it, but it's something that is the equivalent of the morning after. There is so much that has to be talked about. And quite frankly, should these discussions should have been going on this entire time, because by the time black folks get to the table, start talking about what they want.

you know, out of the legislature now that you got Democrats controlling both houses, what they want out of the governor's office since you got, you know, a Democrat in the governor's office. Let me just say this. The other folks have already plotted and schemed. They've already thought about who they want to ask for for positions.

uh, in the administration, they already have thought about what kind of committees and councils they want to be on. They've already thought about what kind of policy legislation they want worked on, uh, what has been in the back burner that couldn't get done under Republicans, but they just been waiting in the cut for it to get done under Dems. Like, literally, that's the one thing our community has got to get better at. And there are a few players in the background, but not nearly enough. Um,

that understand that by the time we start asking questions, it's too late. It will be crumbs left on the table by the time we get done asking questions. So there will be some things that I will certainly be looking for and paying attention to both the local in terms of the state level and the national level. Let me just do a couple of quick things because I got Mark Thompson coming in this morning for the scales of justice.

still watching the race down in Mississippi. Scott Cologne, they have not called that race yet and what people are doing, make no mistake. What people are doing is trying to, they were trying to figure out now how to chip away at votes for Scott Cologne. He was up by like as much as 1,900 votes or 2,000 votes. And I think I saw it kind of fall back to like 1,900, but he got this woman.

So she didn't call. No, no, no. She had a look. They got a video circulating now of Cindy Hyde. Talking to her, her people in her campaign on the night of the election. And she was all cocky and confident about how she knew she had won. And I said I was going to play the audio, but I'm not going to probably have time today. I play tomorrow. But she tells her people, you know, I successfully.

kept him from being a judge. And the people have successfully kept him from being a senator, you know, just talking real recklessly strong about how she knew she had it in the bag. Y'all go home, get y'all some rest. You know, we did it though and you ain't do nothing. And at that time, I think it was like a 28 vote margin for people who don't believe a vote count.

And so over the several last several days, she's not conceded, obviously. And so as the days have worn on, he keeps picking up more votes. I want y'all to know when we were raising money on the radio last week to help with his legal defense because of the way this is dragging on, his mother was contacted by a listener to this show.

Yes, his mother was contacted by listener to this show. His mother is in my sorority. She's a Delta and it was a Delta that was listening and connected with his mom and let her know what was happening. And I have the text messages where his mom was like, thank y'all so much. Just profusely couldn't believe over the top happy that we were thinking about her son all the way up here in Wisconsin.

And her mother, as I mentioned to y'all, was also the first black judge in their area. What I later found out is that Cindy Hyde Smith had beef with his mama. Racists didn't like that his mama was a judge. And so some of this goes back to when Scott Cologne was a little boy and Cindy Hyde Smith was hating on his mama.

And so when he had the opportunity to be appointed a judge, she blocked him from becoming a judge. And, you know, so then when he makes a decision like, yeah, I'm going to run against her, she just knew it was going to be light work and she was going to be done with him. So it's a whole lot going on with that story with Scott Cologne. I didn't realize he had a twin brother.

So here he did a commercial. That's a spoof on centers and him and his twin brother are in the commercial. If you haven't seen it, look it up. But I just want to be clear. They can drag this out as long as they want to. He got that seat because in Mississippi, he only need one vote above what she has to be the winner.

try to keep this man from progressing in life and becoming something great because of whatever reason. And then now he becomes your boss. No, now he takes your job. He takes your job. He can take her job. That's what's going to happen when you dig in a hole for me. Dig two.

Yeah, he about to take her job. That's what's about to happen. And it couldn't happen to a better, a better person because she is a raggedy. And so when I say, um, and the people down there, oh, they got all of the memes out with the gospel songs. You know, you think you go wears down. We ain't tired. The choirs are singing, but I'm also going to say this.

It is black women that have been on the ground in Mississippi. So you got the NAACP down here. The NAACP at the national level, they critical for legal maneuvers to ensure that people's votes are protected. But you got women on the ground. Remember when we talk about you show up at the polls and you may not have your ID with you. So you cast a provisional ballot.

most of this has gotten down to these provisional ballots and whether or not people came back within them five days to certify the ID or whatever information was missing when they cast those ballots. And so it's a sister down there that's been going through every person that cast a provisional ballot and she was talking about the area that she's working in is so small that everybody know everybody. So she calling Jermaine like Jermaine is clock your boy.

You know Clark yeah, that's my guy give me Clark number because Clark didn't go back and take care of that ID piece And then they call in Clark they have to job at Clark job like a bra We need you go back and take care of that because it literally is going to come down to Every single vote is going to matter and then the other thing real quickly that I realized

While it's a lot to complain about in Wisconsin in terms of our electoral process, you know, the restrictive voter ID requirements, but in Wisconsin, we can vote. I'm sorry. We can register to vote up until election day on election day. We can register to vote. We can register 17 year olds to vote as long as they're going to turn 18 by election day.

One of the things that we saw happening down in Mississippi is that people who had went to go try to vote, their ballots were being thrown out because they were 17 and they were going to be 18 by election day. But in Mississippi, you had to be 18 by the day.

registration closed because they don't have registration on election day. So all these little rules and nuance things where you realize like, man, Wisconsin is really ahead of the curve on some of the things that we do in the way we run our elections. We take that for granted that you can go to the polls and register on election day. That's not really how it was done in the rest of the country.

We take it for granted that as long as you're going to be 18 by Election Day, you can go ahead and get registered and you can cast your ballot. That's not how it works in a lot of these places. So we are still watching that race. Uh, Cindy High Smith, you know, she down there singing, holding on her and Jeffrey Osborn, uh, party. But she is going to have to move. She is going to have to move.

And it's gonna be hilarious that the dude that you tried to clown and destroy his whole career That he is getting ready to get your job and you about to be at the house So it is it is on the way. It is coming. It is coming. It is coming a couple of other things real quick Dr. Calhoun said Alabama

Has only same day voting my sister. There's a Montgomery. Okay. Yep. No, like I said, it's I literally had to go back and think about like how I'll fortune it on some things we are in Wisconsin. I gotta go to break

I'm going to talk to attorney Mark Thompson, and I also got an interview with Michael Schultz, the brother who gave us car wash and so many incredible movies of the day, Cooley High. That's at eight o'clock, but.

I will get to a lot of the stuff that's going on. Last night, I was on a call with Black women and they were talking about that there's an effort to keep Maxine Waters from being able to be the chair over financial services, which she rightfully is in line to be. But there are now some white male Democrats that think that they should have that seat, saying she's too old and they want the seat. And so there's like this push now.

that they're asking people to send in, you know, petitions, and I'll get the link to that posted in our chat so that Maxine Waters, who has her faculties, 88 years old or not,

And is capable of doing the job and she's in line to do the job. The one thing I'll just say real quickly, and I'll talk about this more because it happens here on the local level as well. People assume that when you are a committee chair that, you know, oh, it's just about seniority and whoever applied, you know, put their name in the half of the position. There's also a fundraising element.

to getting those seats. Like in joint finance, when Lena was there, you basically had to be able to raise $20,000 to be able to be considered for the party to be able to be, or the caucus to be able to be considered for a joint finance seat. In Congress, some of the white guys that's coming for Maxine Waters for this job, they was like, yeah, and she ain't paid her dues. Dudes are $600,000 and like $60,000.

That's what they have to pay congressional members in terms of dues to the caucus $660,000 Did you know if you don't pay you are not considered for them committee position committee chair positions So it's paying to play it in terms of some of this Yeah, because you got to be able to raise money and so if you can't raise the money and so they came from Maxine waters and said yeah, you know she because they just assumed

Yeah, she's behind on her dues. Maxine Water said, boo, not only did I pay that $660,000, I overpaid. I got like $720,000 under my name. Yeah, when I tell y'all it's real to be speaker of the house and all these different things, these people got to demonstrate that they can pay, I'm sorry, raise money. And that, so we don't talk about it's not cutting dry y'all.

Let me take a break. Michelle Brown, WNOV, A68-M106.5 FM, be right back. All right, family, welcome back to the show. So as I alluded to, today is my day. This is the time of the month that we welcome in attorney Mark Thompson, our segment, The Scales of Justice, in which we talk about hot button issues in the legal community, civic engagement, how this impacts the...

the residents of the state of Wisconsin, and also, you know, we look around the country as well. And coming off the heels of November 3rd, couldn't think of a better person to have a conversation with this morning. So let me just start off by saying, what's happening, Mr. Thomas? How are you doing this morning?

It was it was early wasn't it people thought we were gonna be waiting late is the mic Hang on y'all we trying to make sure his mic is good while we're doing that. Let me just say good morning to Everybody that's online We

Hello. Hello. Hello. Good morning. Good. All right. All right. So, hey, family, what's happening there? What's going on, Anna Hodges? Congratulations. Congratulations. I see you online this morning. All right. So, you were saying... Congratulations. Yeah. Yeah, I see you're on the... Yeah, I voted for the one... Look, somebody said, we did it, Attorney Thompson. We certainly did. You know, it was such a big day, I think, for justice and equality.

the To see that you know, as you know, I was a supporter of Now governor elect Crowley for a long long time and so it was personally just very very joyous day but but to You know to all the folks that

You know stayed in the race late And I you know, I thought they should have got out and let David has have his day with this view that Wisconsin could not elect a 40 year old black man as governor You know the eight-point victory Really was a shout out that

There is hope and there is potential. You know, but I tell people all the time, I go back to Obama. We elected Obama and Scott Walker at the same time. So this is a state that to me for a while has certainly been capable of electing an African-American statewide. But we had not been able to get that done. We've only had a couple of opportunities to do it anyway.

in terms of Mandela running for U.S. Senate. So it's not like we've had tons of kicks at the can. But I believe kind of like what we have saw in the South is that there has just been this thinking about where you can win, where you can play. And, you know, history has kind of said to... 2026 is making everybody rethink all of that. Exactly. Right? No, no, but I mean, you know, it's gonna, you know, I think it's really important.

We used to be one of those key states and national money would flood in for our elections. You know, if Texas and the road to the control doesn't necessarily go through Wisconsin, it's going to change.

The flow of money and we have consistently been a state where money has flown I mean has has come in. Yeah, you know now in the Tiffany race I think we have to also look at the individual characters Tiffany was an unpopular Republican candidate when you realize that the bulk of his millions had come from three donors

And even yeah, too. And that even though the National Republican Committee, you know, they drop money in the race as well. But he was not a highly popular candidate. And I think on David's side, because of all of the kind of, you know, upheaval bumps, you know, folks in folks out, people did not play in our race financially in a way that

we have seen. I mean, I've seen boatloads of money come into Wisconsin for the Democratic nominee. And I think that I even wondered nationally. I know the D the D and C. That their car for seemed a little light because when you look at what wasn't done in Angie Nixon's race down in Florida, she didn't get any money from them. Not really. She she got no help. And it has she gotten help.

We would have a different story down there, you know, right now. Pritzker over here in Illinois, the Lieutenant Governor of Stacey Placid. That money came from Pritzker. It didn't come from the party. So there were a lot of places that the party did not play. And well, and I think the parties needs reconstruction. Definitely. And we can talk about that. But that's a different. Yeah. But there was some some key things you and I talked about.

before this election, what a blue administration could do to consumer rights, you know? And we had talked about that, you know, with, and this goes way back, right? Back when Governor Doyle introduced, in terms of consumer litigation,

that sort of designed around, you know, in the law that I practice in terms of representing injured people, you know, whether it's by drunk drivers or medical malpractice or, you know, and our firm is, we do, you know, quite a bit of section 1983 civil rights work. And just so I don't forget, folks, if you need

To talk to someone you need help you're injured Call jingress Thompson and wax 4148374167 4148374167 And let me just take a quick second because I said Stacey Placid. I meant to say Uh, Julie have a straight oh Stacey Placid became the governor in virgin island. So I'm there. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, Keisha. I

Right. Someone showed out here and now wasn't paying attention. Yeah. No, no, no. It's OK. It's because look, it was so many black women that did the thing trying to keep up with everybody. You're right. Women carried the day. They did. They did. And if you think about the fact that under this current administration, 700,000 black women have lost their job, particularly at the federal level. This was this was this was just crazy that we were able to do this. But let's talk about. But so.

We have just here at home. Like I was saying right this is Oh happy day the opportunities are there and the challenges are there and now it's going to be I think you know one thing that I really see is that There is an in People are losing patience if government doesn't deliver for people People are not locked in blue forever, right? Yeah

But I think the other thing that we have to do is be able to help educate people about where we go. Yeah, where we go. How quickly can we get there? What's actually possible? So in Wisconsin. Now that we have. You know, significant majorities in the assembly and with David Crowley at the helm. It's going to be very, very exciting to see.

What? Government can really do for people But what I but and so there is all those opportunities for laws that help people working people consumers But we what we have and what I wanted to sort of throw around with you And we talked about this before the election we had question three

the balance right right and question three said right government governmental entity discrimination prohibited shall section 27 article 1 of the Constitution be created to prohibit governmental entities in the state from discriminating against or granting preferential treatment to

any individual or group based on race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin and public employment, public education, public contracting, or public administration. And we know that the folks that pushed that viewed this as a tool to attack equal rights.

and attack affirmative action and attack. It was an attack on the across across the board right across the right. And in every entity. But it passed. Right. So I'm just you know, I just want to say it passed statewide. It did not pass in Milwaukee. I want to get that. I don't sort of want to break down because.

And this gets to why I wanted to talk about it. We're gonna be, I know we just got done with one election, but we have a very significant election coming up in April of 2027 for what judge is going to sit on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And yeah, I'm gonna be out there. I have been supporting Judge Pedro Cologne. I've known him for years and years and years. And I think he is the person

best suited for the position but I also think it's crucial now because this now is in our Constitution and until it comes out of the Constitution because there may be folks including you that think that I'll listen to you for a minute but right now it's there and so the question is what

How do you interpret this? Okay? Because just because there were some Republicans that wanted to interpret it to mean the end of DEI, certainly there's nothing facially on it that would prevent enforcing DEI. Okay. This is now wide open.

For the courts to say what does this mean in America right now? And you know the the courts, you know, and I the courts I look at this They and I pulled some Justice Louis Butler, you know from years ago You know, he said the purpose of construing a constitutional amendment is to give effect to the intent of the framers and of the people who adopted it Right

So what do the numbers on Tuesday tell us about what this should mean and and here is I just but wait when Louis says to give effect to the framers of And of the people who adopted right okay, so you look at three Three sources primary source primary sources Right the plain meaning The debates

the practice of the time and the earliest interpretations of the provision by the legislature, but we don't have anything yet, right? Right. So right now it's like a brand new baby. So how do you define this baby? And I just want to say that who interprets it is crucial, right? I think Pedro Cologne as

a man of color, Puerto Rican, been a supporter of equal rights back when he was on the Black Caucus. I mean, you know, I mean, he has been around on these equal rights issues for his whole life, who better to be at the table. But to me, I was looking just at the votes, right? Statewide, roughly, it was 56%, 56.5% yes, right?

1,452,550. And no, 43.5%, 1,196,46. So what do we know about what those votes were? A lot of the people that voted no were concerned about one interpretation of some of the white Republicans were saying that this should mean

of dei right but that doesn't mean that's how it has to be interpreted right because on the other hand you look at david crawley got 1,440,992 votes to be the black governor right josh call is not pure white american right he's got some indian blood right right

Zamaripa is right, Latina. Zhang is Meng. State-wide offices, we elected a rainbow in terms of opportunity. So if you're looking at the mood of the people, yes, affirmative vote was a slate of color and diversity and new hope.

Isn't that the intent of how do you do it? So let me just say one more. OK, well, we got to take a break. And you're going to need another show. Because we're going to need a lot of shows. But I just want to pick up. OK, OK, because, yeah, see, I'm going to go a different way on this conversation. I hear you.

Right now we have an election in April and this is on the book. Yeah, it definitely will be. And the first thing to do is who's going to interpret it. Okay. Okay, man. Let me take a break. Yeah, it's your turn. Michelle Bryant. Oh, it's about to be some heat up in here. Michelle Bryant, WNOV 860 AM, 106.5 FM. We'll be taking a break out. We'll be right back. Stay with us, folks.

Alright y'all, Mark Thompson just got put out to build it. Oh wait, he's still here. He's still here. Alright, so let's let's finish this up because and there was somebody, hang on though, because there was somebody who actually said in the chat that they were appreciative of the fact about the way you have framed the discussion around the amendment. So I just want you to know there are people that are definitely

listening to the case that you're making right now. Wait here. We have a new constitutional provision. You huh? Now you're trying to produce the show. Look at him. He gotta go. He gotta go. No, no, no, no. I'm just happy to be a guest. Thank you. We have a provision.

That we know The folks that dreamt it up dreamt it up With no good purpose in mind right the abolition and attack on DEI. I mean it just the You know, it's it's like the attack on the Voting Rights Act Right. It's like we want to or not we they wanted to take

Us back You know what now, I don't know 19 who knows where they wanted to take us back to but The way I look at that vote and the vote for David and by eight points is that there are Wisconsinites that are

willing to listen and are looking for new beginnings. I have to look at it that way. And so we have this new provision that hasn't been interpreted. It can mean what a majority of the justices say it means. If I've learned anything about being a lawyer in my whole lifetime,

is a blank piece of paper and you write what it means and you write it as if it was the law for a thousand years. That's sort of this common-law way of writing. The fact that some evil people meant it to be an evil thing doesn't mean it has to be that way. But that's why I said who we elect on April makes a difference and it makes a difference on every question.

Definitely. And I even think application of it because when you look at the fact that the legislative makeup has changed of the legislature, the aggressiveness by which we would have seen some attacks had that stayed in Republican control. Some of those things are now not going to happen to the extent that we would have saw. There are people that wanted to get rid of.

All the employment discrimination law that was on the books right using this right that won't happen, right? Yeah, but that's that's my point. You know the law is an idea and It's what we agree on that makes it happen. What is that legal framework? Okay, and the fact that some evil guy thought it meant some evil thing doesn't necessarily that doesn't end the story

It certainly will tell me what some of the you know the lawyers that were backing it are gonna say but that's not a surprise But for us out here That aren't in positions of power and voting making passing laws we can

I like Judge Pedro Cologne in April and say we need this voice on this court to interpret this provision. And I just need people to understand because you have heard Mark mention a couple of times now Supreme Court, Pedro Cologne. I told you all when we were doing all the way back to Jennifer to show us that we would be looking at Supreme Court races for the next five years that.

People don't get comfortable rest on your laurels. Oh, we got Janet then you got Chris Taylor, you know, like, oh, no, we you still that court can still shift because we had additional and it shifts within our friends. Yes. We have we have different ideas on on the center and left of center positions on what equal rights means. Right. Right.

Without a doubt yeah for sure and and whether we end up a Truly multiracial democracy That's always a birthing question. We're always being birthed. This is always a fight every generation every person one person at a time What does it mean to be truly fully human? We have an election April that matters

And this is a topic that needs to be discussed because I know you have ideas in terms of what other options to do with this. And we got to look at all of them. You're thinking we just get rid of it. No, I'm thinking that it's a dual response, that we figure out how to function within it while it is still there. But I think also that some smart legislator needs to introduce legislation

to bring this back to the people again. And you got a two-year campaign by which to educate folks this time. Because when I worked, I'm sorry, when I looked at the numbers out of the ward that our sorority manages at the Clinton Roll Center, while you talked about, you had, let's just say 625 people voted at that polling location, 300 of them voted to pass referendum question number three. But

95 percent of them voted for David Crawley. So I refuse to believe that those people fully understood what the framers of the amendment intended. They. Right. Because if you read it, right, you wouldn't think it was. Yeah, it sounds like a good thing. But that's what I'm saying, because one can interpret it. You don't have to have the evil. Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to see it as a tool. And like I said, the only thing that I worry about and I think that.

when you reference Judge Butler, former Judge, Supreme Court Justice Butler's statement is that what did the framers intend? What did the voters think they were doing? Because the overwhelming number of voters, I think, thought they were doing what the Republicans wanted. They didn't think. Well, that's not true. That's not true. You know, I think that there are many. I think that a lot of people that were ignorant. Yeah, I think that, yeah, depending on which where you were, some people thought they were doing a good thing.

Yeah. And other folks thought that they were doing what the Republicans want. If you just read it for the first time without the background, you wouldn't know that it was evil. That's why it was so slippery. Anyway, folks, if you're injured and you need someone called Jim Gress Thompson walks, check us out GTW lawyers. What's the number? But the

The number is 414-837-4167, 414-837-4167. But it's always crucial to remember, justice is a day by day thing. We do it together, we accompany each other. It feels like many by many these days. The fact that we're all still smiling, at least on this side of the blue wave.

And I hate to say that blue waves kind of but you know I because I remembered my euphoria when Barack Obama won and we ended up with 2016 and it was like How does this happen? So I never want to see another 2016 and Anyway, folks It's always a privilege to be here with Michelle Bryan this wonderful crew in this little studio That put up with me Didn't throw me out the front door

Well, you already said you came through the back. All right, y'all, look. I did say that. I gotta take a quick break. And then when we come back, we will bring up none other than Michael Schultz, the legendary filmmaker. I'm talking about movies that are the soundtrack of my life. So let me thank attorney Mark Thompson, troublemaker extraordinaire in here raising, you know, hope and giving people an opportunity to see this thing differently. We'll be right back, y'all.

Hey, how are you doing pretty good? So you already clicked in I am

I told you all that we had an interview coming up this morning. So I have had the opportunity to talk to this handsome brother before I see him on the screen. Hello, Michael Schultz. How are you today, sir? I am great. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm even better than I get a chance to talk to you this morning. I mean, look, I mentioned to someone that I was going to talk to you this morning and she said, well,

My question is, did he intend to set out to create these movies that would become iconic, you know, cultural phenoms, or was he just making a movie and having a good time? And I told her, I said, I will work that question in, but I wanted you to know that it was the first thing that she said, and I'm paraphrasing it, but just talked about that.

So many of the movies that are associated with your name and your work are just soundtracks. Visual soundtracks to so many of our lives. And so I just want you to know that there are people that are questioning, how do you put this string of movies together that become cultural phenoms? So we'll put that on the hold. That's a good question. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But for folks that don't know.

This is a brother whose contributions to film, television, black cultural storytelling, but storytelling across the board, while also, you know, as I was having a political conversation prior to bringing up Michael Schultz, you know, but these are films and work that has broken barriers in Hollywood. You know, demonstrated the importance of representation, the evolution of

our presence in the entertainment industry and you have been one of the folks that has ushered that through. So I guess I want to start there because a brother from Milwaukee, Marquette University graduate, when you set out, when you think about like, I'm on this journey, this is what I want to do.

Do you go into it with the political stuff in the background, representation, you know, how we show up, you know, not just that we're in the movie, but the characters that we are actually playing. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, what you were thinking when you came into this whole thing? And did you see the political aspect of any of this? Well, I had no intention of doing what I've been doing my whole life.

I was going to be Colin Powell of the Air Force. I wanted to fly jets. I wanted to be a general in the Air Force. I had no conception that what I'm doing could even be done by a young black guy. Because when I was growing up, there were no black directors that I knew about.

They didn't teach us about Oscar Michele, you know? And so that wasn't even a dream. I think my whole life has been guided to do what I'm doing because I have been moved by the great spirit, however you want to name it, in spite of myself.

you know. And so, yes, when I decided that this is something that I wanted to do, and it really happened because all of my other dreams were crushed. And I'm sitting in the back of a little theater in Madison, Wisconsin, watching all these great filmmakers from Europe, from Japan, from, you know,

France, watching them tell these great provocative stories through film. So it wasn't like Hollywood entertainment. It was material that made you think, that made you question what your relationship was to your fellow man, to God.

to what your purpose in life was. I said, as a young student, because I was a sophomore, man, I would love to be able to tell stories like that because we have so many stories that need to be told, yet that need to be told so that people know who we are.

For real not the garbage that they're looking at on the screen through somebody else's eyes But who are we really and what do we have to bring to the party? you know and I Wish I could do that man. I wish I could do that without a clue as to how to get there so a friend of mine said

Well, there's this great theater program at Marquette University. Why don't you go there? And I said, man, I don't want to be in the theater. I want to make movies. But that was my only option. I couldn't afford to go to USC or UCLA or

NYU, those were the only three film schools at the time. Now there are hundreds of them around the country. So I go to this market university. I meet this priest called Father John J. Walsh. And I hear that the theater program is more

popular than the football team. And so this guy tells me, he said, well, if you want to be in the theater, you're going to have to go to dance class. You're going to have to go to acting class. You're going to have to go to voice class. You're going to build sets, make costumes.

Whatever and your academics are gonna be secondary. You're gonna live breathe and eat theater, you know and I Said dance class tight boys and laugh me off the block, you know He said hey, well if you don't want to do that, you know, it's like you're not in the theater program. Well

I wanted to be in the theater program. And so I said, okay. And it was the best training that I could have ever gotten. Instead of going to film school, I went to a school where we learned that it wasn't about making money. It wasn't about being famous. It was about telling

stories that made a difference, that made you think about who you are, who they are, who your fellow men are. And there was an ethical basis for doing the work. For example, they had a really nice little theater.

He showed the students, he said, this space here, talking about the stage, this is a sacred space. And everything that you do in this space is going to affect somebody in the audience. So be careful what you do in this space. It has an effect.

And that stuck with me through my entire career because coming to Hollywood, it's all about making money. You know, it's all about the flash. It's all about all that stuff. They don't believe or they don't want to believe that everything on that screen is coming right into people's consciousness.

it's affecting how they live their lives. And so when I got my chance to look at material, I would choose material that I thought would make a difference. I would choose material that had truth, that had humor,

that had pathos that made the audience feel. And it always had to be entertaining for me, you know. But there always had to be a real message in the material that would make a difference. And that was my attitude all throughout my career.

You know, I was looking through just the list of films. So obviously most of us immediately go to car washing cool. Yeah, I mean those are the anthems that that's the that's the gold standard That's the platinum standard for so many of us. But when you think about which way is up carbon copy The last dragon that's my son's favorite crush group

That's my cousin's favorite. I mean, I could like go through our family and like everybody will tell you a different, you know, particular film. But one of the things that I thought about as I've gotten older is that there have been some through lines in all of these, you know, and when you talked about

the ethical piece of it, the message. I figured out the ability of overcoming, of uplift, of hope. It ran through a lot of the projects, whether we're talking comedy, whether we're talking heartbreakers. That was the thing that stood out for me as I thought about some of your films. And again, so I don't want to be redundant on the question, but it seems like that that was kind of as you were making

decisions about which projects to take on, somewhere in the background, it seemed like that that was going on. Is that a fair statement? Absolutely. Again, there's so many things that we need to tell each other in our stories so that we can be uplifted, that we can come out of that theater with

something that we didn't go into the theater with, you know and Everything that I had seen growing up as a kid in the media Not only didn't tell the truth about who we were but Gave a picture that was totally

against who we were. It had to fulfill the vision of an audience that wasn't us. They had to make them feel good about who they were, not caring about portraying us or any other people in a negative light. So I always wanted to shed that positivity

that genius, that spirit, that indomitable spirit that we have as a people that couldn't be crushed by all the stuff that we've been put through, right? So yes, there's always a political message in the comedies. There's always a,

I look for the themes that uplift us all, not just black audience, but quite, you know, people in general, because I wanted my films to be a bridge across the racial divide. And I think I accomplished that.

So I'm going to get to the point of why we are talking this morning about this amazing award that has been named in your honor. But I personally would be remiss. I had an opportunity to see Lawrence Hilton Jacobs in a play that he was doing not too long ago. And I had to kind of laugh because I said, you know, Michael Schultz has been one of the first people.

to really, and what I thought about, I said, all of the heartthrobs and the male characters that, you know, Dizzle Washington, Blair Underwood, I'm like, I met them through Michael Schultz projects. And so I had to laugh about, have you like taken a moment to take stock of all of these, these incredible talents, these, and in this case, a lot of brothers that

You know, I even want to Samuel L Jackson brothers that may not have been given that platform, you know, when Denzel Washington does carbon copy He's still a relatively unknown, you know trying to so have you have you thought about and went through the list of like This is who I put on. This is who I got out there I have thought about it I've even talked about it. Um, my first, uh, Broadway play I

Hired a young actor named Al Pacino, you know Before before he was a known entity and before he made any movie at all, you know, he was a brilliant actor and The theater community knew him but nobody else know, you know No, again, I attribute that to my theater training But being forced

as the director to go to acting class, taught me a lot about what actors need from a director and what makes a good actor. So my ability to spot talent is a direct result of my training in theater.

Because I think about Glenn Terman, just in who was in Cooley High. You know, it is crazy who comes up out of it. Garrett Morris will always be one of my faves. He can do so much with the part. He could do so much with the part without opening his mouth, body language, gestures. And I'm like, it takes a certain kind of talent to be able to see this in people. So when you realize, like the folks you brought to the table,

It just is incredible. But I said, yeah, he must have had a handsome brother quota, too, because all of the guys, all of the guys that we had questions on when we were younger have been in your productions. But let me get to why we are talking this morning, because there has been an amazing effort over at Milwaukee Film, Black Lens, to be able to come up with an award in your honor. And you were in town.

Last year, but somebody said that that was the first time you had been home in like 50 years. Was that correct? That's just about right. What is the problem? 50 years? Oh my God, what happened? What happened was I got very busy. I was working. I was working, Michelle. Exactly. And then bit by bit.

all of the family that I had in Milwaukee went to various places around the country. And today, there is nobody that I know from the Schultz family who lives in Milwaukee. So there was no reason to come back. I did come back maybe five years after I left, went to New York. I was making a name in theater as a director and I came back

to work with the students at the Marquette Theater. And then once my theater career shifted into filmmaking, and I was off to Hollywood, I was doing one movie after another, you know, time flew by and I never got back. Nobody invited me back.

Well, look, we got you now. And now we're going to keep you because there has been an award established in your honor. You were the inaugural recipient. But now we understand young sister, bad sister. Eve's Bayou goes down for sure as one of the greats. Makashi Lemons is someone that has been selected to be the recipient of the award this year.

What do you think about the sister at her work? Casey is like one of the most courageous women out there. I mean, there are several really top-notch female directors. But Casey was one of the first that jumped on the scene and she started out as an actress.

and didn't stop at that level. She had talent as a writer. And so when this just jumped out with a script that she had written and the people that she had pulled together, like Sam Jackson, who helped produce it, you know,

with Eve's Bayou. I said, who is this? Love it. And then watching her work all the way up through Talk to Me and the movie she did on Harriet Tubman and the Whitney Houston movie. And then I didn't really

going to depth following her career. And I didn't realize that what a teacher she had become. And so I really admire the actors who are in Hollywood movies who go back to theater to keep honing the craft. And I really admire the people who go back to

teach and uplift the next generation. And she's done that in spades. And thank you. Thank you for making sure I set her name correctly. Unfortunately, I know someone who spells her name the way she does. But she pronounces it differently. So in my head, I'm like, say it right. Say it right, Michelle. So thank you for saying, Casey. I appreciate it. I mean, it was so funny. I was just watching Talk To Me. Talk To Me has become

For me what a car wash was for for some other folks it is one because every time I watch it I see something I missed I See it from a different angle. I learned one more thing. I was too busy laughing or too busy being you know

Wowed by something and something else was snuck in right behind it And I'm like I missed that the first time talk to me and I think because of the work that I do Talk to me goes down in history as one of the greats self made that she did again Incredible, but when I tell you I don't care how many times I see Harriet Mm-hmm What this system was able to bring to life on that screen I think that it is

As I opened up, you know, when I talked to you about what I mean, I talked to my friend about you and she said, I mean, do you intend to do this? Do you intend to create these projects that you know? This is this is gonna stick around. It's gonna be here and it becomes a backdrop and that's what it seems like she has done. So when you and I opened it talking about, you know, like what it's like getting into this arena. So what does the horizon look like?

Michael when you think about from where you started seeing a young sister like Casey come along The opportunities are they are they are they better now or what's the trajectory in the way that you see some of this? Well, you know If you had asked me this two years ago, I would have said it's incredible. It's fantastic that more brothers and sisters are

getting the training, getting the shot, they're doing brilliant work, and there are more crew people, there are more people at every level of the filmmaking process, the lawyers, the agents, this mini studios, the time of parries of the world, you know, for

That audience, there's the Charles Kings of the world, young brothers who have built little empires, you know? So it's great. There were more opportunities than ever. Now science technology comes in. Thank you.

turning over the entire apple cart. So right now, everything in Hollywood is on pause almost. It's like the executives, the studios are merging, which is a terrible thing.

So there'll be less work, less people. Executives are getting fired. Nobody's making decisions about what to do next. The streamers have kind of taken over a little bit. So it's a big mess at the moment. And with the advent of AI, doing more of the work,

young people who've come out of the schools, film schools, don't have jobs, you know, they don't have job offers. This year is the first year in my entire career that I have not been shooting anything. Well, I won't say shooting anything, but

shooting anything for Hollywood. And so the business have come to a grinding, slow, painful halt. So that's what it looks like now. But at the same time, this whole creator economy has surface where if you have an idea and you have an iPhone,

or an Android phone or whatever, you can make your stories and you can find a way to get them on a platform. It's like your show. You couldn't have done that 10 years ago. So the technology is also allowing

people who have the drive, the passion, the smarts, the training to create their own stuff. So that's great. So one last question, and this one was unintended, but you made me think of it when you were talking about, you know, the advent of AI and technology and how things are shifting. We are all anxiously awaiting 14th Avery DuVernay project. I hear it's...

Incredible but the thing that has gotten me is how quickly something will go from theater to Netflix from theater to streaming Do you think that like will ever and I? Guess I kind of know the answer to my own question or at least I feel like you know, you know the answer It's terrible the way this is changed like that. Yeah on it

Yeah, it actually helped destroy the theater going experience. The people who are running things do not understand the importance of people being together to have that group experience.

Had there been any kind of real education for the people who are running things if in the arts if they knew the if they had any kind of theater experience They would think differently. So you get into this thing where technology isolates people, you know, and oh, yeah, it's great to have movie in your in your

movie room if you got that space, you know, or on this little screen, but it is not the experience of absorbing a story in the group setting. Yeah, that classic when we all scream together at the same time or, you know, we all laugh at the same time. And you, particularly if you're in a theater with diverse attendees, you realize black, white, Asian, we all laugh at the same punchline.

You know, we all screamed at the same, you know, moment in the film. I have been at theaters where I was sitting next to a husband and wife and I was grabbing his arm and his wife start cracking up. She's like, I'll share with you till we get through this. The scary scene, you know, because it's so it was the experience of and then watching our faces when when we saw Harriet and we all walked out and people are just no one can talk.

Yeah, it's the best moments ever so I just kind of wondered about it But I just want to say for folks that this is an incredible thing that we have the second annual Michael Schultz Awards weekend is coming up We are talking November 13th and 14th. It is going to be phenomenal They're going to be featuring screenings and there will be events. I'm gonna tell you

Candy man, can't do it. Can't see it. Can't mess with it. I can't. I can't. I'll see ease by you. I'll see you talk to me. I will let y'all enjoy Candy Man. I cannot. And then to know that it was kind of pseudo based on a true story. Yeah. Yeah. No, sir. No man. Yeah, I'm with you there. Yeah, I like your stuff. I like your stuff. Well, Mr. Schultz, when I tell you

this is all this is the absolute honor of all honors being able to speak with you to see the man behind the genius behind like I said we quote lines all the time from these movies iconic lines literally all somebody got to go is you know the Rolls Royce

It's as relevant today as it was when it was put out there. I remember what you said the last time about your wife actually being in the movie. And now I see it and I smile every time. So the work has been phenomenal and I look forward to what's next for you. Well, what's next for me? I'm just finishing a documentary on the Palisades Fire.

Really? The firestorm from 2025 that destroyed the entire two towns in the LA area. And it's an incredible story about survival and regrowth.

Well, then we will be on the lookout. Hopefully we can get you back when it's time to highlight that. Thank you so much, sir, for being so generous with your time this morning. And I couldn't think of a better person for an award to be named in their honor. Thank you so much. Thank you. Take care. Yes, sir. All right, y'all. None other than Michael Schultz, y'all know the man. Now we got to see the legacy continue to move forward and the honoring of Casey Lemons in the upcoming event this weekend. All right, sir. Talk to you soon.

Thank you. All right, family. Let me take a quick break, Michelle, Brian, WNOV, 860 AM, 106.5 FM. We'll be right back. All right, family, I don't have a lot of time left, so I'm not going to try to really unpack another story. But what I will do is just some general quick comments. First of all, the conversation that I was having with attorney Mark Thompson and we were talking about interpretation of question three.

a blank slate, if you will, some folks are looking at it as an opportunity as long as you got the right people in place that you can interpret this thing differently. And see, for me, that is in and of itself a part of the problem because we already have protections in place about discrimination, that this bill was absolutely unnecessary. This amendment was not necessary.

And because it is so subjective in terms of who is at the table. Like I said, a lot of the harm that was intended by Republicans when they introduced this is going to be mitigated because there will be Democrats controlling the state legislature now. So some of the willfulness about attacking programs and attacking institutions and.

You know, state agencies, some of that's going to be curtailed because they don't have a juice right now to fully go after people in the vitriolic way that they had planned to, even with the Democratic governor, because they had hoped that they were going to retain control of the legislature when this was introduced. I don't like it when it depends on who's in the room.

I need stuff written and spelled out in a way that it doesn't matter who's in the room. This is the law and this is how we follow it. So, that for me is a part of the problem. The other thing that, you know, Thompson also, and I don't know if I alluded to, I can't remember if I alluded to it on air when I was talking to Mark Thompson was, or we did say, I said, this was a direct attack on diversity, equity, inclusion. But here is the rub for me with Republicans.

And they trifling behind us. So we're getting ready to go into a new legislative season or cycle session. And they had to identify leadership because because they no longer were the majority. Now they're the minority. They had to pick a minority leader for the Republican Party in the state of Wisconsin. Okay. A minority leader for the Republican Party in the state of Wisconsin. They chose.

State Senator Julian Bradley to be the new minority leader for the Republican Party. The thing that's interesting, if you don't know, Julian Bradley is a black man. He is the only black Republican man serving in the Wisconsin State Senate. And this is what's funny. There were three names from what we have been told whose hat.

They had put their hat in the rain. Some of two of which, when I worked in Senator Taylor's office, we had worked well with Senator Mary Felskowski, Democrat, but she played on both sides of the aisle. Senator Patrick Teston. Teston was decent out of Stephen's point to work with. Never worked with Eric Wimberger, but...

Those were the three that when they went in the room, they were supposed to be, you know, these are the options. They come out the room with Julian Bradley, the black dude. Mr. Hot Chocolate, the former wrestler whose stage name was Hot Chocolate. Yeah, I'll let all that sink in. Now, Julian, you know, has been in the Senate for six years, came in 2020.

Not a political heavyweight. He's just a regular dude. Not no all star legislator. Not no all star policies. Not no all. But he's a nice guy. He's a really nice guy. And I won't take that from him. But in terms of political prowess and legislative, he ain't that dude. He a regular cat. He a regular legislator. Felskowski, in my opinion, runs circles around him. He's a regular dude.

Because y'all got some rockstar legislators and y'all got some regular legislators. So the Republican Party decides to make the black regular dude their minority leader. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Because we got a black dude in the governor's office, perhaps. Because, you know,

their attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion while they got the referendum through nationwide. They saw it was it was some backlash to some of that. You know, we just want to have a different look because we got to regroup and we got to come up with a strategy to better position us for 2028. So we're going to show that look, we ride with black people too. Not just as our lackeys, but we'll put them in leadership roles too. Stop playing with us.

This was a strategic move and some of them said when they came out the room, we just decided to go on a new path. No, you want to be able to show when the new stories get told, when the side by side screens are being played, that y'all got a black face representing y'all on the Republican side of the aisle. Was this an affirmative action appointment? Was this a DEI hire?

When y'all want to use black folks and brown folks, diversity, equity or no, diversity is fine. Inclusion is fine. Julian is not the minority leader for the Republican Party because he was the best dude for the job. Let's just say what it is. He was the black dude in this black moment in his black time for the job. You see how they play in your face? You see how they use us?

You see? Do you understand it? All of a sudden, the dude who only been around for six years, other legislators way more seasoned, way more capable, but you trot him out as y'all new minority leader. All of that's some shenanigans. Don't mean to be, you know, hurtful to Julian. Oh, and Julian, who was given an opportunity to join the Black Caucus.

When he first came, even though he was a Republican, the Democrats in the Black Caucus reached out to him and said, hey, we got a Black Caucus. Is here irrespective of a party affiliation? Would you like to join? And he said, respectfully, deuces our pass. I'm not here to caucus with you, Negroes. We have no common interest.

I will stay with the the the white boys in the Republican Party. I have no interest in meeting with you black Negroes to talk about nothing. gave him an opportunity to join and he did a respectful pass. So, when you see them try now his face, I want y'all to keep in mind what I'm saying. Keep in mind what I'm saying.

If David Quali had not been elected governor, we would not be looking at Julian Bradley's black face being the minority leader for the Republican Party. The other thing I will quickly say is that when Mark Thompson was in here, Attorney Thompson was in here and he talked about, you know, interpretation and policy. It's a whole lot of things getting ready to be on the table now.

I'm going to go with the federal level right now just because time is of the essence. The George Floyd Policing Act, it can finally get passed. The John Lewis Voting Rights Act can most likely finally get passed. DC statehood, representation, none but paying. Taxes, they finally could do something about that. Reparations.

Now, that might be a bridge too far, but it makes a difference who is sitting in these seats. If we hold them accountable, if we voice our concerns, if we tell them what we want, if we have a list, if we have a list, because

even Democrats won't necessarily do what's in our best interest if we're not there to stand near whole people accountable. In the comments further back when Mark Thompson was in talking about how people interpret question three and somebody said but these was the same Supreme Court jurors that found

And uphill, you know, that one of the programs in terms of higher education that it was discriminatory blah, blah, blah. So just because it's a bunch of white women sitting there don't mean that they're going to see things the way black folks see them. Or that they're going to share our position on some of these issues. Even Pedro Cologne going does not mean he's going to see it from the perspective and the angle of a black person. He's going to be able to see it through a minority lens in terms of, you know, ethnicity or race, but he won't see it.

from our perspective. So that's why I tell people all time, you got to be in the game. You got to be at the table. You don't get to take your marbles and walk away. The work you all will figure out is just now getting started. That's the show for the day, bros. I appreciate your family. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Peace.